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Ok - another experiment with one of the photographs taken on Sunday morning.  This is looking out to sea towards the Isle of Wight. 

I have invested in polerising filter for my camera, so I thought I would try a few with and without shots to compare.  It did make quite a big difference with the glare on the the sea.  Despite the clouds, it was very bright in the sunshine.  However, I still didn`t particularly like this shot in colour.

I really have put this one up for criticism.  I`m thinking that I should have cropped some of the top out to remove that very bright area?  I tend to be a bit disappointed when I attempt distant landscape shots, so any suggestions would be welcome. 

So - does it work in black and white?  And any suggestions to get the best out of landscapes?

comments (30)

  • telemachus
  • Zabon Ba Gnuffglix
  • 15 Nov 2007, 00:13
But not Blackwater. :>

The wine dark sea, maybe?

Fine texture shot, Roz, but that's right: In colour, its more like a postcard.

Taking the glare right out of this shot would have ruined its effect: the polarizing filter has to be treated like a Photoshop filter - used only when necessary and then judiciously.
Rosalyn Sears: I wasn`t sure if it had reduced the glare on the water enough, but I settled for the fact that you could still see detail in the water, even with the glare. It`s so interesting trying these conversions. (:o)
  • Martin
  • United States
  • 15 Nov 2007, 01:04
This works very well in b/w. Good tonal range where it counts and a clear and engaging composition.
Rosalyn Sears: Thanks, Martin. I`m sure if I practice enough, I`ll get a feel for which pictures will convert to best effect. (:o)
  • ray
  • Thailand
  • 15 Nov 2007, 03:36
very dramatic expanse of water, Rosalyn.
I love this sea-scape, but would have been tempted to crop 50% off the sky, making the remaining sky much more dramatic.
I feel you have just the right amount of glare on the water.
Rosalyn Sears: I felt maybe there was too much at the top. It would make it much more brooding cropped. (:o)
  • Aussie
  • in a night shift daze
  • 15 Nov 2007, 04:48
This is just right to me. The sky and reflection on the water are terrific.
Rosalyn Sears: Well I am happy you think so! (:o)
This is powerful and dramatic - a lovely shot
Rosalyn Sears: Thank you, Chris. I am so pleased you like it. (:o)
I like the sky full of dark and light clouds... I love the metallic, silver tones of the sea. That's a great mono Kay. In my likeys.
Rosalyn Sears: Wow! I am flattered you like this so much. (:o)
  • Tracy
  • Great Britain (UK)
  • 15 Nov 2007, 07:54
Love the lighting in this shot, the sheen on the water is beautiful.

I like the B&W it works for
Rosalyn Sears: Thank you, Tracy. I delighted you like it. (:o)
An accurate title for a really beautiful shot ! Bravo !
Rosalyn Sears: Thank you. You are so kind with your comments. (:o)
  • Mal
  • 15 Nov 2007, 09:19
eye candy Roz. mal
Rosalyn Sears: Thank you, Mal. I`m so glad you like it. (:o)
  • shakara
  • Nigeria
  • 15 Nov 2007, 09:51
What a fantastic shot !!
Rosalyn Sears: Kind of you to say so, shakara. Seems this experiment was worth while. (:o)
  • Louis
  • South Africa
  • 15 Nov 2007, 10:26
That bright area proves the value of the pol. filter. You can shoot against the sun and still have great results. So does the sea in the reflection area where you can sea the detail of the water.

I wouldn't change the crop - but then I am one of those who likes controlled bright parts in a picture.

B&W great for this picture.
Rosalyn Sears: Cheers, Louis. I`m liking this photogaph more as these comments come in. Nothing quite like a bit of positive reinforcement to keep you going. (:o)
  • johnnyg
  • Great Britain (UK)
  • 15 Nov 2007, 10:28
As you can see Roz everybody has a different opinion which means go for what feels right to you. This shot is fine and you don't need to crop the sky as you need it for contrast, ok maybe a tiny bit off the top but you need to show the light source. Very nice landscape you have here and the mono conversion works well.

Rosalyn Sears: Thank you, J! It is really interesting to read these comments. It does make you realise that everyone sees things differently. I take your point about the light source. If I cropped it too severely, there would be no sense of where the light was coming from. (:o)
  • Kathryn
  • Germany
  • 15 Nov 2007, 11:11
Roz, I think Johnnyg has hit the nail on the head with the hammer. I've looked at this in many ways and can see merit in all of them. What I focused on when I looked at your picture was the closeness of those huge thick low clouds to the water and that was powerful for me. I think on this one, it is up to you the story you tell with it because there are so many wonderful elements to it.
Rosalyn Sears: Thank you for your very useful comments, Kathryn. You have just reminded me that, while I was busily concentrating on filters and glare, I was not even thinking about what I was trying to portray with this photograph. That is such a helpful comment. Sometimes when I am undecided about a photograph, maybe I should ask myself the question `what am I trying to convey with this`. It might help me solve problems about cropping, atmosphere, tones. It is easy, when you are concentrating on technicalities, to forget why you took the photograph in the first place. Thank you! (:o)
  • Astrid
  • Netherlands
  • 15 Nov 2007, 13:09
Wow Rosalyn, those clouds are a beauty!!! Love this capture, great job.
Rosalyn Sears: Well thank you so much, Astrid. I am very happy to know you like this one. (:o)
  • Ginnie
  • United States
  • 15 Nov 2007, 15:25
I have a polarizing filter that I've not yet used, Roz, so you've got me thinking. This clearly does well in a B&W conversion. The water sparkles with the sun's light. I like it as is!
Rosalyn Sears: I have always been disappointed with my photographs of the sea, because they always seem to have been spoiled by too much glare. I was quite surprised by the difference the lense made. I`m so pleased you like this one. (:o)
This photo has the WOW factor! As it is, it looks stormy and cold. Take our the bright bit of the sky and it looks dark and menacing. Maybe in colour it looks bright and sunny? Either way, you could crop and print this picture over and over - and each one could imply something different.

So, I would call this photo a success, Ros, from any angle or crop.
Rosalyn Sears: Thank you for those very encouraging comments, Sheila. As Kathryn reminded me, I can choose what story I want to tell, and as you point out, I have a choice of interpretations with this photograph. Thank you again. (:o)
I like it in BW and like your crop. Somehow the water look like some kind of solid material on my screen, and that is cool....did you sharpen this pic....
Rosalyn Sears: Thanks, Aksel. Yes, I think I sharpened it a tiny bit. Glad you like it. (:o)
This is very good Ros. I like it in b/w and the light on the sea is good I agree about cropping the top of though - the glare in that bit of cloud is too much. Scrolling up the monitor and chopping the top off makes all the difference.
Rosalyn Sears: Hi Ingrid. I shall definately be playing with this photograph to see how I can vary the atmosphere. Glad you like it. (:o)
Great B&W shot Rosalyn. I like the lighting and the contrast. Well done
Rosalyn Sears: Thank you, Richard. I appreciate your positive comments on this one - especially as I haven`t done many of these. (:o)
  • blackdog
  • Bath on dial up!
  • 15 Nov 2007, 21:09
Works fine as it is Roz - you could trim some from the top if you want more emphasis on the sea, but it will change the mood.

I think it looks great in B&W - but then I am the wrong person to ask on that one!
Rosalyn Sears: I disagree! You are exactly the `right` person to ask, and I really value your comments on this one. Strangely, the comments I have received have served as a really good lesson, not so much on mono conversions, but to remind me not to lose sight of what I am trying to convey in the photograph. That in itself would make some of the decision easier. Thank you. (:o)
  • ChaCha
  • NYC
  • 15 Nov 2007, 23:08
I like this result!
Rosalyn Sears: Thank you! I`m glad you like it - that makes me happy! (:o)
Looks good in B&W and the crop is ok, the horizon is about on the lower third, usually the right place but it really depends on where you would like the emphasis, the sea or the sky. You could perhaps loose a bit of the very bright sky but I think it looks fine as it is.
Rosalyn Sears: Thanks, Les. I have received some excellent advice on this one, your comments incuded. Much appreciated. (:o)
I would trim a bit off the sky. I've been scolling up and down and if you take it down to almost lose that very bright white it looks better to me. Coincidentally it leaves an almost 2/3 1/3 shot. Having said all that I think this is a fabulous shot and I wish I'd taken it.
Rosalyn Sears: You are very kind, Bill, and I really appreciate your comments. I`m getting some great advice on this one. (:o)
To my, your experiment, I like much. I would not know to you to say that to do in that shining zone, perhaps some level located in PS, not. In any case thus he is very pretty!
Rosalyn Sears: As usual, your comments are always so very encouraging. Thank you, Jose! (:o)
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